I like that show where they solve all the murd3rs ([info]cedarlibrarian) wrote,
@ 2005-06-02 14:32:00
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I cannot read any more of this Ann Rinaldi book. How on earth did this woman's books get to be so popular? Blech.

I have not read The Buffalo Tree, the subject of this article on the banning of the book in Muhlenberg, PA, but I have read three of Adam Rapp's other books, Under the Wolf, Under the Dog, 33 Snowfish, and Little Chicago, and all I have to say is this:

THANK YOU, ADAM RAPP!

Thank you for being so bold in your writing. Thank you for bringing the harshness that is often teen reality to the limelight with a ferocity that few other authors have managed. Thank you for your honesty, and for your talent that allows us to see your disturbed characters not as shocking and fear-inducing, but sympathetic and human. I will always buy your books for my library, and if they are lost, stolen, or destroyed, I will replace them. I will not insult the intelligence of teens by stocking books without bad words or sex or drugs or rock and roll. Their lives are as complicated as your books and as Chris Crutcher said, to censor teen books is to censor teens.

ETA: Here's what Bookslut had to say about it.

I am always disheartened by censorship, especially by those who are willfully ignorant of everything in a book except for a few bad words. Words hurt so much less than having a closed mind. It's been a bad couple of weeks in the library world for censorship, between this ban, warning labels on "sexually explicit" teen books, and the ban on King and King in Oklahoma that may result in any book with any sort of reference to homosexuality being moved to a restricted section of a library. (Who wants to relabel the books on Alexander the Great?) There's already a library in the county I work in that separates it's YA collection into "middle school" (those books are kept in the children's section) and "high school." They think it's the greatest thing ever. Personally, I disagree with them. Sometimes we have a hard enough time just deciding whether a book should go in teen or adult, and now they want to say, "Ninth graders should read this book, but eighth graders shouldn't?" Who's got that kind of time?

One of the things I hear a lot as a childfree person is that I'm selfish. Breeder bingo aside, I'm just astonished at how selfish so many of the parents are in this NYT article.

Tammy Hahn, a mother of four and perhaps the most outspoken of the book's opponents, responded that the students' view was irrelevant. She was not about to let her daughter take part in a classroom discussion about erections, she said, adding that it amounted to harassment to subject a girl to the smirks and innuendoes of male classmates who would have no sympathy for her discomfort.

"This is not about a child's opinion," she said of the students' defense of the book. "This is about parents."


It is? Then the parents can jolly well go into the classroom every day, sit at the desks, do the homework, take the ACT, etc. I've seen parents like this and it's not pretty. I get the feeling she doesn't get a lot of attention at home. And if it's about the parents, then why do we have teachers and librarians? How selfish is it of her to tell other people what's appropriate for their children to read? But what do I know? I don't even have (bipedal) kids.


The other thing that irks me about this case in PA? They want to assign a RATINGS SYSTEM to books, like (dare I say it?) the MPAA's. Oy. I say that when they can read every book in my collection cover-to-cover and come to a unanimous vote on every book without any previous discussion, then I'll think about it. Oh, and I have to agree with them, as does every single parent of a teenager in town. Any dissention is grounds for the book not getting a rating.

The town I work in is reportedly conservative, but I'm lucky enough to have not had any challenges yet to anything in my collection. Half of that is probably because no one bothers to wander through my teen section, but hey, I'm not arguing.

Book Expo tomorrow and Saturday, Hogwarts Local NYC meetup on Sunday. Back Monday.



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[info]patchfire
2005-06-02 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Most parents are quite selfish. And, not to be offensive to anyone, but especially parents of a certain middle-age range who have done everything at exactly the right time. (I'm thinking of Sam's cousins here, I admit.) They get married at just the perfect time, they have 'a nice amount of time to ourselves as a couple,' and then they have a baby - and it often is because 'well, it seemed like it was time.' Read: everyone else is doing it, and we don't have the balls to say we don't want kids. It's a children-as-lifestyle-accesory phenomeon, and yes, it's ugly.

And people can't imagine why I don't get along with so many other parents...

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[info]flutastic
2005-06-02 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Selfish parents: Do you remember the whole "Wife Swap" show business over the last year or so? There was one woman who really stuck in my memory - a Manhattan "housewife" who neither spent any time in her home nor seemed to care very much about her husband or her kids. She had four, FOUR nannies, a housekeeper, a chef, and someone else to handle her business while she spent time shopping and spa-ing. They have two kids, a boy and a girl, who had NO idea who their parents were because they saw them so rarely. When they swapped with a woman from a background with lesser means but much more involvement with the family, this woman had the hardest time adjusting to doing something connected to other people.

I'm not likely to have children of my own, but I hope to be involved in the lives of any nieces and nephews (both blood relatives and children of friends) as I can be. Hiring people to take care of your kids ALL OF THE TIME (no problem with daycare here, but 24-hour care when there are no extenuating circumstances to require it is not cool) doesn't make your kids feel good; you're PAYING someone to be around you. *sigh*

Families are not about the "right time" all the time. That's what makes them special.

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[info]skg
2005-06-02 08:33 pm UTC (link)
I am a Manhattanite. < /disclosure>

I know a couple that has two sets of twins (IVF involved)--they have *two* nannies. And a housekeeper, etc.

On top of that, the "mom" expects people at her husband's office to do her kids' school projects including typing their homework (the older twins are five, btw).

Freaks

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[info]kittengirly
2005-06-02 07:01 pm UTC (link)
My mother babysits for a couple who have children as "accessories." The kids go with their big house in the "rich" suburb, the country club membership, the large SUV, and their standing as very conservative republicans. Mom had to babysit on Monday so the parents could go golfing. I will never understand people like that.

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[info]wcspegasus
2005-06-02 06:54 pm UTC (link)
People like that make my city look stupid. *headdesk*

Although it is nice to see that both sides are being listened to.

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[info]myskat
2005-06-02 07:11 pm UTC (link)
You are my hero! I was ( and still am) a voracious reader and my parents never censored what I read. So many of life's crazy moments were sorted out for me in books that would by other people, have been considered too mature. learning passively through literature is one of the ways I learned what I wanted to avoid as well as what i wanted to do in my life!

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[info]allyscully
2005-06-02 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Which one? I love Ann Rinaldi, but I would recommend some of her books far more strongly than others (ie, the Quilt trilogy: skip it; In My Father's House or Wolf by the Ears: awesome)

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[info]cedarlibrarian
2005-06-02 07:23 pm UTC (link)
I don't want to say which ones I'm reading, because this is a public post, but I will tell you that it is not In My Father's House or Wolf by the Ears.

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[info]lingbo
2005-06-02 08:38 pm UTC (link)
You know I completely agree with you on the children issue. I'm not looking forward to facing the same dilemmas as you from ignorant, arrogant people.

Honestly, what is with parents thinking their kids must be sheltered from every bad word and sexual innuendo? I read plenty of more mature stuff at a young age from books and I turned out alright. I think. ;)

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[info]ceilidh
2005-06-02 09:35 pm UTC (link)
I sort of live in an area where... I won't say that the parents can't read or aren't involved, but there are rarely any book challenges or complaints. I know that Julie of the Wolves, Bridge to Terabithia and The Giver are often targets of complaints but they are standard reading in our fifth grade classes and they haven't been challenged in the seven years I have been there. We often complain about the lack of parental involvement but I suppose this is one time when less involvement is a good thing? :-/

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[info]darthsemicolon
2005-06-02 09:42 pm UTC (link)
...that's the book I JUST checked out, isn't it? Grrr. In Rinaldi's defense, her earlier books present interesting perspectives to famous episodes of American history. Even I think her latest books are going down the tubes, and it takes me forever to admit that writers aren't as good as I thought they were when I was in fifth grade.

Also, I couldn't even READ her Giver-esque book, but that might be because I've always been a huge fan of The Giver.

The only thing I've ever seen happen at my library re: censorship was the time they took the dust jacket off of Pamela Anderson's book, although I've always wanted to look at their copy of America: The Book and see if the page with the naked Supreme Court justices was still in there. However, during my junior year, my teacher took all the photocopies of Grendel (yes, I'm from an extremely cheap school district - not badly funded, just REALLY cheap, and we had to read photocopied books constantly) and crossed out all the obscenities and anything *she* considered to be blasphemous (because half my high school English department has been taken over by Baptists, some of whom hate Shakespeare). Luckily, I'm a fast reader, and I was done with the book long before she ever noticed that my classmates were giggling over said obscenities.

We had a lot of discussion in my Children's Lit class about appropriateness of books, and even we couldn't come to a reasonable consensus about books like Speak and The Chocolate War; how do these people think they can do it? *facedesk* (Books at our school libraries were occasionally separated, but because of difficulty, not because of content - they always let me be "special" and read whatever the hell I wanted.)

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[info]sternel
2005-06-03 12:32 am UTC (link)
Parents who don't want their daughters to hear the word "erection" are going to be the ones shocked and dismayed when she comes home one day and announces she's pregnant.

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[info]fasterthanlight
2005-06-03 03:52 am UTC (link)
And you wonder why you're my shero.

What you said. Because these kids are my future adult patrons, and I'll not appreciate having to convince them all over again that fiction is rich, vivid, and limitless.

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[info]demeter918
2005-06-03 05:41 am UTC (link)
I cannot read any more of this Ann Rinaldi book. How on earth did this woman's books get to be so popular? Blech.

I remember reading her books in middle school. It was all about the romance, baby. XD But yeah. I just reread one of my favourites from the time and it was decidely... lacking. I think part of it was the fact that it was historical fiction, so I always felt a bit self-righteous in reading it. Like, I was actually doing something productive instead of just reading (because that's what they were) light romance novels.

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[info]demeter918
2005-06-03 05:47 am UTC (link)
I've seen parents like this and it's not pretty.

And this is why I should read the whole post before zeroing on one part. -_-;;

My parents were probably one of the least involved parents in my whole school and I think I came out just fine.

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[info]primroseburrows
2005-06-03 09:49 am UTC (link)
"One of the excerpts is from "Forever..." by well-known author Judy Blume."

I read that book in high school and managed not to become a sex-crazed axe murderer. Go me!

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[info]ashfae
2005-06-08 02:42 pm UTC (link)
I would've been delighted by Warning: racy content stickers on teen books when I was a teen. It would've told me exactly which books to head for. How else was I supposed to learn about what sex was really like?

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